Senator Merkley vows to press train CEO on cash awards after hearing

Following a U.S. Senate committee hearing with Norfolk
 CEO Alan Shaw on Thursday, Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of
Oregon expressed disappointment in the CEO’s testimony and lack of details
about specific actions the company would take to prevent future disasters.
Merkley vowed to send in formal follow-up questions for the record to press
Shaw about large cash awards a Scripps News investigation revealed executives
at his company received.  

The Scripps News investigation found Norfolk Southern
repeatedly incentivized its executives to cut costs in ways critics say often
came at the expense of safety. 

Shaw, along with other Norfolk Southern executives,
personally received millions of dollars in cash awards for their 2021
performance. Scripps News found the company justified this to the Securities
and Exchange Commission, saying the payouts were partly because it had made its
trains longer and heavier, and saved money elsewhere. 

“I’m absolutely going to ask about that,” Merkley
said after hearing. “They have cut costs in every conceivable way on

In the hearing, Shaw said his company will stay committed to
the East Palestine community for as long as it

“Norfolk Southern runs a safe railroad,” Shaw told
senators. “And it’s my commitment to improve that safety.” 

But a GAO report from late last year found the company hit a
10-year high in 2021 with its accident rate per million train

During Thursday’s hearing, Shaw was also also asked about
the $69 million Norfolk Southern has spent in lobbying fees over the past
decade. Scripps News previously reported those lobbying efforts included
multiple attempts to oppose costly new safety measures. 

OREGON SEN. JEFF MERKLEY: I just want to know, will
your team lobby for safety improvements rather than against them?

NORFOLK SOUTHERN CEO ALAN SHAW: Senator, we will continue
to follow the science. We will continue to follow data.

When pressed on his willingness to implement specific safety
changes, Shaw repeatedly avoided commitment.

SEN. MERKLEY: Will you pledge today that you will do
no more stock buybacks until a raft of safety measures have been completed to
reduce the risk of derailments and crashes in the future?

SHAW: Senator, I will commit to invest in continuing
to invest in safety. We invest over $1,000,000,000 a year.

SEN. MERKLEY: And you noted that you have a list of
safety things you’d like to implement. Will you commit no more stock buybacks
until those safety improvements are completed?

SHAW: So I will commit to continuing to invest in

Senator Edward Markey also tried to push the CEO for more

compensating effective homeowners for their diminished property values?

SHAW: I’m committed to do what’s right. 

SEN. MARKEY: Well, what’s right is a family that had
a home worth $100,000 that is now worth $50,000. We’ll probably never be able
to sell that home for 100,000 again. Will you compensate that family for that

SHAW: Senator. I’m committed to do what’s right.

SEN. MARKEY: That is the right thing to do.

Nathaniel Reed, Patrick Terpstra and Rosie Cima
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